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	<title>Comments on: Meet The Train Makers, Part 3: Talgo</title>
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	<description>America Under Construction</description>
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		<title>By: World Travel</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-13394</link>
		<dc:creator>World Travel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madrid - The Capital of Spain, several-millions city located in the heart of the Iberian peninsula, almost in its geographical center. I like this city and can tell this is my favourite place all over the world. Great architecture, great style and great people.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madrid - The Capital of Spain, several-millions city located in the heart of the Iberian peninsula, almost in its geographical center. I like this city and can tell this is my favourite place all over the world. Great architecture, great style and great people.</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-11426</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talgo nice!!! very atractive train and very fast train,in commercial service.and most experience in europe and america (talgo cascades) the number one option.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talgo nice!!! very atractive train and very fast train,in commercial service.and most experience in europe and america (talgo cascades) the number one option.</p>
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		<title>By: Meet The Train Makers, Part 5: Siemens &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-10327</link>
		<dc:creator>Meet The Train Makers, Part 5: Siemens &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is part 5 of a series that includes Alstom, Bombardier, Talgo and the Japanese [...]

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		<title>By: Meet The Train Makers, Part 6: China &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-10326</link>
		<dc:creator>Meet The Train Makers, Part 6: China &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1: Alstom Part 2: Bombardier Part 3: Talgo Part 4: The Japanese Part 5: [...]

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		<title>By: News Roundup: Votes, Polls, and Surveys - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-10026</link>
		<dc:creator>News Roundup: Votes, Polls, and Surveys - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Infrastructurist invites you to meet Talgo. [...]

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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-9932</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the interesting part about Talgo is how, like Pullman, it's used as a metonym for the type of cars it innovated. Pullmans are sleeping cars; Talgos are tilting trains, or trains with independent wheels.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the interesting part about Talgo is how, like Pullman, it&#8217;s used as a metonym for the type of cars it innovated. Pullmans are sleeping cars; Talgos are tilting trains, or trains with independent wheels.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-9895</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talgo high speed trains feature a floor level of 760mm, far lower than the station platforms of HSR networks designed for conventional designs. For reference, the California High Speed Rail Authority is aiming for a platform height of around 1000mm (both figures above top of rail). I'm not sure how RENFE combines AVE services based on the S-102 (Talgo 350) with those based on the S-103 (Siemens Velaro). My guess is their lines only support one or the other type.

Also note that the &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=5&amp;ved=0CBEQFjAE&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talgo.de%2Fdownload%2FTalgo_22_D.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=talgo+22&amp;ei=a671SuvsOdT__Aa1poy6Aw&amp;usg=AFQjCNE2C40eFwL2BT_X6xwpyOWwSzdDiQ" rel="nofollow"&gt;Talgo 22&lt;/a&gt; is a bi-level articulated design featuring level aisles along the entire length of the train on both levels! Since it relies on Talgo's trademark wheelsets (2 independent wheels per &lt;i&gt;car&lt;/i&gt; with passive steering and passive tilt), the articulation points are just 8m apart. This enables wide cars (i.e. comfortable 3+2 seating) and allows the train to negotiate very tight curves without any wheel squeal. Aimed at the regional rail market, available top speeds are 140-200km/h (90-125mph). Floor height is 560mm. The product is UIC but not FRA compliant.

Talgo's biggest weakness is arguably its marketing department. The company's &lt;a href="http://www.talgo.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;primary web site&lt;/a&gt; is downright awful, which is a crying shame considering its consistent excellence in technical innovation.

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More on &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=7&amp;ved=0CBkQFjAG&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dca-design.com%2Fsectors%2Ftransport%2Fpdfs%2FSpace_trains.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=talgo+22&amp;ei=a671SuvsOdT__Aa1poy6Aw&amp;usg=AFQjCNEOuigsVqqlGdwsx37d10qlyHWrYQ" rel="nofollow"&gt; innovations in bi-level rail cars&lt;/a&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talgo high speed trains feature a floor level of 760mm, far lower than the station platforms of HSR networks designed for conventional designs. For reference, the California High Speed Rail Authority is aiming for a platform height of around 1000mm (both figures above top of rail). I&#8217;m not sure how RENFE combines AVE services based on the S-102 (Talgo 350) with those based on the S-103 (Siemens Velaro). My guess is their lines only support one or the other type.</p>
<p>Also note that the <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=5&amp;ved=0CBEQFjAE&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.talgo.de%2Fdownload%2FTalgo_22_D.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=talgo+22&amp;ei=a671SuvsOdT__Aa1poy6Aw&amp;usg=AFQjCNE2C40eFwL2BT_X6xwpyOWwSzdDiQ" rel="nofollow">Talgo 22</a> is a bi-level articulated design featuring level aisles along the entire length of the train on both levels! Since it relies on Talgo&#8217;s trademark wheelsets (2 independent wheels per <i>car</i> with passive steering and passive tilt), the articulation points are just 8m apart. This enables wide cars (i.e. comfortable 3+2 seating) and allows the train to negotiate very tight curves without any wheel squeal. Aimed at the regional rail market, available top speeds are 140-200km/h (90-125mph). Floor height is 560mm. The product is UIC but not FRA compliant.</p>
<p>Talgo&#8217;s biggest weakness is arguably its marketing department. The company&#8217;s <a href="http://www.talgo.com/" rel="nofollow">primary web site</a> is downright awful, which is a crying shame considering its consistent excellence in technical innovation.</p>
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<p>More on <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=7&amp;ved=0CBkQFjAG&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dca-design.com%2Fsectors%2Ftransport%2Fpdfs%2FSpace_trains.pdf&amp;rct=j&amp;q=talgo+22&amp;ei=a671SuvsOdT__Aa1poy6Aw&amp;usg=AFQjCNEOuigsVqqlGdwsx37d10qlyHWrYQ" rel="nofollow"> innovations in bi-level rail cars</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Aster</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/11/04/meet-the-train-makers-part-3-talgo/comment-page-1/#comment-9874</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Aster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more info on the Talgo plans in Wisconsin:  http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2009/07/30/talgo-location-choice-a-no-brainer-milwaukee/

Urban Milwaukee's been doing a good job of tracking the progress...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more info on the Talgo plans in Wisconsin:  <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2009/07/30/talgo-location-choice-a-no-brainer-milwaukee/" rel="nofollow">http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2009/07/30/talgo-location-choice-a-no-brainer-milwaukee/</a></p>
<p>Urban Milwaukee&#8217;s been doing a good job of tracking the progress&#8230;</p>
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