Comments on: The Daily Dig - ‘12-Car Garage In NYC’ Edition http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/09/10/the-daily-dig-12-car-garage-in-nyc-edition/ America Under Construction Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:11:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Wad http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/09/10/the-daily-dig-12-car-garage-in-nyc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-7654 Wad Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:57:38 +0000 http://www.infrastructurist.com/?p=4842#comment-7654 Dallas, you are absolutely right. Many of us in L.A. are upset over Metro's decision to spend $100 million (!) on a gating system. There's also research that has shown that fare barriers are only marginally better than proof of payment, and both systems had very high rates of compliance. The study said that both systems are highly effective, and agencies would be best to stick with what they have as switching costs outweigh any gains or savings. L.A.'s system has 94% compliance. Our problem isn't that 6% are not paying their fares, it's that our riders are too honest. Fare gates won't push compliance to 100%; no system achieves that. At best, $100 million would only get us 96% compliance. Dallas, you are absolutely right. Many of us in L.A. are upset over Metro’s decision to spend $100 million (!) on a gating system.

There’s also research that has shown that fare barriers are only marginally better than proof of payment, and both systems had very high rates of compliance. The study said that both systems are highly effective, and agencies would be best to stick with what they have as switching costs outweigh any gains or savings.

L.A.’s system has 94% compliance. Our problem isn’t that 6% are not paying their fares, it’s that our riders are too honest. Fare gates won’t push compliance to 100%; no system achieves that. At best, $100 million would only get us 96% compliance.

]]> By: Dallas http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/09/10/the-daily-dig-12-car-garage-in-nyc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-7625 Dallas Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:00:16 +0000 http://www.infrastructurist.com/?p=4842#comment-7625 The LA turnstile thing sounds like a bad idea from a politician. Lots of research has been done on transit ticketing. Research has shown, over and over again, that the gains made by allowing free access far out weigh the losses from ticket sales. In fact, free loaders aren't even that big of problem. Think about it, when ever you see a random sweep on a train, how many people don't have tickets? I live in Dallas, and I've never actually seen a cop write a ticket. The vast, vast majority of people purchase their tickets honestly. I can't imagine this saving LA "million of dollars". In fact, it probably won't even pay for the installation of the turnstiles. The LA turnstile thing sounds like a bad idea from a politician. Lots of research has been done on transit ticketing. Research has shown, over and over again, that the gains made by allowing free access far out weigh the losses from ticket sales. In fact, free loaders aren’t even that big of problem. Think about it, when ever you see a random sweep on a train, how many people don’t have tickets? I live in Dallas, and I’ve never actually seen a cop write a ticket. The vast, vast majority of people purchase their tickets honestly. I can’t imagine this saving LA “million of dollars”. In fact, it probably won’t even pay for the installation of the turnstiles.

]]> By: Streetsblog New York City » Today’s Headlines http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/09/10/the-daily-dig-12-car-garage-in-nyc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-7589 Streetsblog New York City » Today’s Headlines Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:25:17 +0000 http://www.infrastructurist.com/?p=4842#comment-7589 [...] UES Home of Wall Street Genius Includes 12-Car Garage (Biz Insider via Infrastructurist) [...] [...] UES Home of Wall Street Genius Includes 12-Car Garage (Biz Insider via Infrastructurist) [...]

]]> By: Eric F http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/09/10/the-daily-dig-12-car-garage-in-nyc-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-7536 Eric F Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:52:59 +0000 http://www.infrastructurist.com/?p=4842#comment-7536 They have converted a rail bridge across the Hudson into a park. $35 million. Should be a nice amenity for the Poughkeepsie peeps. Opens next month. They have converted a rail bridge across the Hudson into a park. $35 million. Should be a nice amenity for the Poughkeepsie peeps. Opens next month.

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