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	<title>Comments on: Why Doesn&#8217;t The Stimulus Include Money For Painting Roofs And Roads White?</title>
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		<title>By: gene nordell</title>
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		<dc:creator>gene nordell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps if we did really look at albedo changes IN TOTAL and added WASTE HEAT EMISSIONS we might find CO2 is not even in the running for agw!

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		<title>By: M LaSarge</title>
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		<dc:creator>M LaSarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been using aprox. 5000 square feet of latex based white ceramic insulating paint on our shop roofs in Mobile, AL for over 10 years now. We have removed the insulation from the underside of most of the area because the racoons moved into the insulation, and have never had to reinsulate. The underside of the metal roofs remain cool. We also installed aprox. 2500 square ft directly on a prestressed concrets roof. With Its mass, that building always stays relatively cool in hot weather. Believe whatever you want about the environment, but that stuff saves us a lot of money and greatly improves employee comfort. Much better return than buying stock! 
I also painted the shingles over my back porch at home because the radiation from the underside of porch roof  was so bad in the afternoon you couldn't sit back there. Now it's like sitting under a tree in the summer on that porch.
We got used to the briteness after several days, and now never even notice it. It's no worse than snow on the roofs up north.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been using aprox. 5000 square feet of latex based white ceramic insulating paint on our shop roofs in Mobile, AL for over 10 years now. We have removed the insulation from the underside of most of the area because the racoons moved into the insulation, and have never had to reinsulate. The underside of the metal roofs remain cool. We also installed aprox. 2500 square ft directly on a prestressed concrets roof. With Its mass, that building always stays relatively cool in hot weather. Believe whatever you want about the environment, but that stuff saves us a lot of money and greatly improves employee comfort. Much better return than buying stock!<br />
I also painted the shingles over my back porch at home because the radiation from the underside of porch roof  was so bad in the afternoon you couldn&#8217;t sit back there. Now it&#8217;s like sitting under a tree in the summer on that porch.<br />
We got used to the briteness after several days, and now never even notice it. It&#8217;s no worse than snow on the roofs up north.</p>
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		<title>By: Concrete: More expensive, but Climate-Friendly &#124; Urban Living in California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concrete: More expensive, but Climate-Friendly &#124; Urban Living in California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we wrote about here and here, a trio of well-regarded scientists have argued very persuasively that all the dark [...]

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		<title>By: It&#8217;s Time For Climate-Friendly Concrete Roads &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s Time For Climate-Friendly Concrete Roads &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we wrote about here and here, a trio of well-regarded scientists have argued very persuasively that all the dark [...]

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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After many years working as an energy-efficiency and renewable energy advocate in the Midwest, this year I started my own company painting flat black roofs white in the city of St. Louis, where I live.  It doesn't take a lot of financing to get started, but federal stimulus money definitely would help make things happen faster and on a larger scale, which is what's needed to really have an impact in my community.  ARRA funding is available for energy efficiency, but it's not easy to tap into.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After many years working as an energy-efficiency and renewable energy advocate in the Midwest, this year I started my own company painting flat black roofs white in the city of St. Louis, where I live.  It doesn&#8217;t take a lot of financing to get started, but federal stimulus money definitely would help make things happen faster and on a larger scale, which is what&#8217;s needed to really have an impact in my community.  ARRA funding is available for energy efficiency, but it&#8217;s not easy to tap into.</p>
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		<title>By: J - Pacha Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>J - Pacha Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roofs, like windows, need to be selected for regional-compatability.  As a Florida resident, when faced with the decision of a new roofing material, we chose WHITE shingles for their ability to keep the relentless regional sun/heat deflected off of our home and reduce our cooling costs.  White colored shingles are the only Energy-star rated shingles available.  Yes, there are greener roofing options, but they weren't in our budget.  For most people, reducing their environmental impact is more realistic that eliminating it altogether.  The roofers warned us that white shingles won't look "clean" as long as dark colored ones.  If anyone wants to comment on the cleanliness of my shingles, then phooey on them.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roofs, like windows, need to be selected for regional-compatability.  As a Florida resident, when faced with the decision of a new roofing material, we chose WHITE shingles for their ability to keep the relentless regional sun/heat deflected off of our home and reduce our cooling costs.  White colored shingles are the only Energy-star rated shingles available.  Yes, there are greener roofing options, but they weren&#8217;t in our budget.  For most people, reducing their environmental impact is more realistic that eliminating it altogether.  The roofers warned us that white shingles won&#8217;t look &#8220;clean&#8221; as long as dark colored ones.  If anyone wants to comment on the cleanliness of my shingles, then phooey on them.</p>
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		<title>By: lavonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No-VOC paint would be a very important requirement if this is done large-scale. Otherwise, it would be business as usual: solving one problem by creating several more.

Also, I agree that white roads would be a horrible idea for safety reasons. Roofs, yes --- roads, no. Better to spend that money repairing our rail system and getting people off the roads altogether.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No-VOC paint would be a very important requirement if this is done large-scale. Otherwise, it would be business as usual: solving one problem by creating several more.</p>
<p>Also, I agree that white roads would be a horrible idea for safety reasons. Roofs, yes &#8212; roads, no. Better to spend that money repairing our rail system and getting people off the roads altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: What does Green Mean? &#187; Reach of the Blind Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>What does Green Mean? &#187; Reach of the Blind Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other great links on that page, as well.       [...]

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		<title>By: Demolished! 11 Beautiful Train Stations That Fell To The Wrecking Ball &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demolished! 11 Beautiful Train Stations That Fell To The Wrecking Ball &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Doesn&#8217;t the Stimulus Include Money For Painting Roads and Roofs White to Fight Global Warm... [...]

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		<title>By: Diego Ripley - Interesting Articles &#8211; Week 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego Ripley - Interesting Articles &#8211; Week 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Doesn’t the Stimulus Include Money for Painting Roofs and Roads White?     &#8592; Eight Awesome Hardware Twitter Hacks     &#8592; Back Home [...]

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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, blah... this seems like a good idea, but how much energy is used and pollution created by manufacturing all of this paint? And to that end, stop blaming the environmentalists for promoting this agenda... follow the money. Look at the paint companies!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, blah&#8230; this seems like a good idea, but how much energy is used and pollution created by manufacturing all of this paint? And to that end, stop blaming the environmentalists for promoting this agenda&#8230; follow the money. Look at the paint companies!</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
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		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry if this was mentioned before. Has the cost/benefit of production of painting these surfaces been looked at? I have found that from time to time certain "green" ideas, although great in concept, cost more energy and resource than they reap. If this is not one of those it sounds great. BTW I am a believer that this is a problem but that we can creatively counteract the coming crisis. I don't think that all humans are as dumb as some of these comments.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry if this was mentioned before. Has the cost/benefit of production of painting these surfaces been looked at? I have found that from time to time certain &#8220;green&#8221; ideas, although great in concept, cost more energy and resource than they reap. If this is not one of those it sounds great. BTW I am a believer that this is a problem but that we can creatively counteract the coming crisis. I don&#8217;t think that all humans are as dumb as some of these comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The white roads thing is actually a fairly bad idea. While good environmentally, it's impractical in the least. Sunny days, especially in those places of either high altitude or those closer to the equator, will be miserable for anyone who has to get anywhere near a road. I am also unsure if this would be safe if there was snow on the ground say.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The white roads thing is actually a fairly bad idea. While good environmentally, it&#8217;s impractical in the least. Sunny days, especially in those places of either high altitude or those closer to the equator, will be miserable for anyone who has to get anywhere near a road. I am also unsure if this would be safe if there was snow on the ground say.</p>
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		<title>By: MIA NONY</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIA NONY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HELIO-PHOBIA: FEAR OF THE SUN. 
WHITEWASHING: WHAT A WASTE OF THERMAL MASS!
INSTEAD OF THIS ADMINISTRATION CAPITALISING ON THE NATURAL SOLAR GAIN TO BE DERIVED FROM GAZILLIONS OF ROOFS EVERYWHERE, SIMPLY BY SHIFTING SOME OF THE COST AWAY FROM UPGRADING THE NATION'S ELECTRICAL GRID &amp; TOWARD CONVERTING SOLAR GAIN INTO USEFUL ENERGY, YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO WHITEWASH ROOFS? 
WHY ISN'T THE US GOVERNMENT SUPPORTING &amp; SUBSIDISING RE-ROOFING THE NATION WITH ENERGY EFFICIENT SOLAR SHINGLES, &amp;/OR USING ROOFS AS NATURAL SOURCES OF SOLAR HOT WATER HEATING &amp; SOLAR ELECTRICAL? INSTEAD WE ARE TO THROW AWAY ALL OF THAT SOLAR OPPORTUNITY &amp; INSTEAD  THE WORLD'S OIL PRODUCT ROOFS GET A WHITE WASH? IF EVER THERE WAS A SHORT SIGHTED, SHALLOW, COSMETIC, SHORT TERM THINKING SUGGESTION, THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT. GIVEN COLDER  WINTERS THAN EVER, IS THIS EVEN ENVIRONMENTAL? OR IS IT YET ANOTHER CASE OF TUNNEL VISION, AT THE TIME IT SEEMED LIKE THE THING TO DO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SHIFT AWAY FROM A FUTURE OF SOLAR ROOFS FOR SOLAR HEATING, SOLAR COOLING/SOLAR HOT WATER/ETC?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELIO-PHOBIA: FEAR OF THE SUN.<br />
WHITEWASHING: WHAT A WASTE OF THERMAL MASS!<br />
INSTEAD OF THIS ADMINISTRATION CAPITALISING ON THE NATURAL SOLAR GAIN TO BE DERIVED FROM GAZILLIONS OF ROOFS EVERYWHERE, SIMPLY BY SHIFTING SOME OF THE COST AWAY FROM UPGRADING THE NATION&#8217;S ELECTRICAL GRID &amp; TOWARD CONVERTING SOLAR GAIN INTO USEFUL ENERGY, YOU ARE BEING TOLD TO WHITEWASH ROOFS?<br />
WHY ISN&#8217;T THE US GOVERNMENT SUPPORTING &amp; SUBSIDISING RE-ROOFING THE NATION WITH ENERGY EFFICIENT SOLAR SHINGLES, &amp;/OR USING ROOFS AS NATURAL SOURCES OF SOLAR HOT WATER HEATING &amp; SOLAR ELECTRICAL? INSTEAD WE ARE TO THROW AWAY ALL OF THAT SOLAR OPPORTUNITY &amp; INSTEAD  THE WORLD&#8217;S OIL PRODUCT ROOFS GET A WHITE WASH? IF EVER THERE WAS A SHORT SIGHTED, SHALLOW, COSMETIC, SHORT TERM THINKING SUGGESTION, THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT. GIVEN COLDER  WINTERS THAN EVER, IS THIS EVEN ENVIRONMENTAL? OR IS IT YET ANOTHER CASE OF TUNNEL VISION, AT THE TIME IT SEEMED LIKE THE THING TO DO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SHIFT AWAY FROM A FUTURE OF SOLAR ROOFS FOR SOLAR HEATING, SOLAR COOLING/SOLAR HOT WATER/ETC?</p>
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		<title>By: Glad We All Agree White Roofs Are A Great Idea &#8212; Now Let&#8217;s Use Stimulus Money To Make It Happen! &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glad We All Agree White Roofs Are A Great Idea &#8212; Now Let&#8217;s Use Stimulus Money To Make It Happen! &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you may have read about here, a recent scientific paper has suggested that lightening roofs and paved areas in urban areas [...]

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		<title>By: Kazys Varnelis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazys Varnelis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Jeb.

Frankly, it's insane not to do put silver coating ( for  ex.: http://www.gardner-gibson.com/linedetails.aspx?id=57)  on flat roofs.

If you've ever see tar roofs bubble under heat, you'll notice that after the bubbles rise, they pop. At that point the integrity of the roof is violated and its a matter of time. 

Roofs are not cheap from an owner's perspective. Silver coatings will prolong the life of the roof significantly. New roofs are not environmentally friendly either. This is a sensible idea from every perspective.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Jeb.</p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s insane not to do put silver coating ( for  ex.: <a href="http://www.gardner-gibson.com/linedetails.aspx?id=57" rel="nofollow">http://www.gardner-gibson.com/linedetails.aspx?id=57</a>)  on flat roofs.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve ever see tar roofs bubble under heat, you&#8217;ll notice that after the bubbles rise, they pop. At that point the integrity of the roof is violated and its a matter of time. </p>
<p>Roofs are not cheap from an owner&#8217;s perspective. Silver coatings will prolong the life of the roof significantly. New roofs are not environmentally friendly either. This is a sensible idea from every perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Leaderboard for week of 5-4-2009: Timing matters &#124; BeatBlogging.Org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaderboard for week of 5-4-2009: Timing matters &#124; BeatBlogging.Org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this blog post, Reed asks a thought provoking question, &#8220;Why Doesn’t The Stimulus Include Money For Painting Roofs And Roads White?&#8221; Painting black surfaces like rooftops and parking lots white could save at least $1 trillion [...]

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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phoenix already has white roofs because it does work.  There are areas of Phoenix that are heavily treed, and in those areas temperatures are much cooler requiring minimal air conditioning in the summer.  There are types of large trees that use minimal water.  As this article shows, we need to think about everything, and what works will vary by location.  Conservation is the biggest 1st step.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phoenix already has white roofs because it does work.  There are areas of Phoenix that are heavily treed, and in those areas temperatures are much cooler requiring minimal air conditioning in the summer.  There are types of large trees that use minimal water.  As this article shows, we need to think about everything, and what works will vary by location.  Conservation is the biggest 1st step.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Southerners are in for a treat! New printed sheets of photovoltaic cells will soon reach your stores, and you will be able to get most your power from the sun. Some of you, the poorer, will modify your electrical demands by insisting on the new solar powered refrigeration units available, some of you will do more microwave cooking, some will install solar hot water systems, and some will get off-grid completely, and have excessive money to play with! But most of all, you are ahead of the darker part of the North American continent, Canada, for example, and are able to help yourselves on an individual basis to the new, free, perpetual, or renewable, if you prefer,  power source, untaxed (as yet) and unregulated, take all you can! Don't worry about global warming, if it were a real threat, the underground fires in Kentucky coal mines, and the Preventable C02 in Uzbekistan  http://englishrussia.com/?p=1830  can be seriously approached by "Big Government", and the jack-asses that rail against the individual consumer as a cause can take a lesson in the matter of scale from this also! In the meantime, understand that the Americans (us) will soon not be able to beg, borrow, steal, or blackmail, the large amounts or world resources we are accustomed to, and must look to alternate sources - Solar, Wind, Wave, Hydro, Tidal and Geothermal are the currently popular and safe power sources. Small reactors, being built in New Mexico, and Toshiba, Japan, exist, but are unlicenceable, fission disasters, waiting to happen, a last, but likely resort for a hungry America, but very dangerous!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Southerners are in for a treat! New printed sheets of photovoltaic cells will soon reach your stores, and you will be able to get most your power from the sun. Some of you, the poorer, will modify your electrical demands by insisting on the new solar powered refrigeration units available, some of you will do more microwave cooking, some will install solar hot water systems, and some will get off-grid completely, and have excessive money to play with! But most of all, you are ahead of the darker part of the North American continent, Canada, for example, and are able to help yourselves on an individual basis to the new, free, perpetual, or renewable, if you prefer,  power source, untaxed (as yet) and unregulated, take all you can! Don&#8217;t worry about global warming, if it were a real threat, the underground fires in Kentucky coal mines, and the Preventable C02 in Uzbekistan  <a href="http://englishrussia.com/?p=1830" rel="nofollow">http://englishrussia.com/?p=1830</a>  can be seriously approached by &#8220;Big Government&#8221;, and the jack-asses that rail against the individual consumer as a cause can take a lesson in the matter of scale from this also! In the meantime, understand that the Americans (us) will soon not be able to beg, borrow, steal, or blackmail, the large amounts or world resources we are accustomed to, and must look to alternate sources - Solar, Wind, Wave, Hydro, Tidal and Geothermal are the currently popular and safe power sources. Small reactors, being built in New Mexico, and Toshiba, Japan, exist, but are unlicenceable, fission disasters, waiting to happen, a last, but likely resort for a hungry America, but very dangerous!</p>
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		<title>By: The Plucked Chicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Plucked Chicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I Might Believe They're Serious about Human-Induced Climate Change When......&lt;/strong&gt;

.... when I see this coming to every American city and town
south of the Mason Dixon Line.  Until then, it's just a convenient
crisis for advancing a political agenda.  Even then, I'd like to see the
data.  The real data -- not showing that the clima...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I Might Believe They&#8217;re Serious about Human-Induced Climate Change When&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;. when I see this coming to every American city and town<br />
south of the Mason Dixon Line.  Until then, it&#8217;s just a convenient<br />
crisis for advancing a political agenda.  Even then, I&#8217;d like to see the<br />
data.  The real data &#8212; not showing that the clima&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for winter heating, one could probably apply a removable sticky white film or sheet (stick so that it doesn't blow around in a storm) during the summer instead of white paint, and remove it in the winter.  It would certainly be more work than white paint and probably more expensive as well, but it could be an option for those legitimately concerned with heating costs.  Below a certain latitude, though, heating is not an issue.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for winter heating, one could probably apply a removable sticky white film or sheet (stick so that it doesn&#8217;t blow around in a storm) during the summer instead of white paint, and remove it in the winter.  It would certainly be more work than white paint and probably more expensive as well, but it could be an option for those legitimately concerned with heating costs.  Below a certain latitude, though, heating is not an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: dunc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dunc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The costs of covering as much surface area as roads would be huge. Obama budget huge. And it would have to be incurred on some kind of semi-annual basis as cars driving on the surface and weathering will wear the surfaces away.  

Also, what Homer says is true everywhere. Black top roads are not actually black for their whole lifespan. Only at the beginning and then traffic wears off that top layer of asphalt. Overall they mirror more the color of the rock that makes it. Look at your local road, most likely it looks gray. Painting roads or any other costly additive will negate the whole point of asphalt surfacing (is this the real issue?, the evil oil usage?) in the first place and that is a cheap method of making an easily navigated surface. 

Boghie and John are also correct in their assessment of the roofing area. Most areas of the world that would see actual benefits from this already employ it. 

Want to do something smart? Educate, then let the free market take it's course. And quit looking for practical solutions from an institutionalized jackass in an ivory tower that seems more keen on forcing others to do their will than actually helping people.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The costs of covering as much surface area as roads would be huge. Obama budget huge. And it would have to be incurred on some kind of semi-annual basis as cars driving on the surface and weathering will wear the surfaces away.  </p>
<p>Also, what Homer says is true everywhere. Black top roads are not actually black for their whole lifespan. Only at the beginning and then traffic wears off that top layer of asphalt. Overall they mirror more the color of the rock that makes it. Look at your local road, most likely it looks gray. Painting roads or any other costly additive will negate the whole point of asphalt surfacing (is this the real issue?, the evil oil usage?) in the first place and that is a cheap method of making an easily navigated surface. </p>
<p>Boghie and John are also correct in their assessment of the roofing area. Most areas of the world that would see actual benefits from this already employ it. </p>
<p>Want to do something smart? Educate, then let the free market take it&#8217;s course. And quit looking for practical solutions from an institutionalized jackass in an ivory tower that seems more keen on forcing others to do their will than actually helping people.</p>
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		<title>By: AST</title>
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		<dc:creator>AST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This solution would be too easy.  Like dumping iron filings in the ocean to stimulate phytoplankton blooms, it would have to be opposed by environmental groups because it would cause all their fundraising to dry up.  They thrive on fear, and have become such large businesses in their own right, that they can't afford to solve the major problem they warn about. 

The March of Dimes was organized to find a solution to polio.  When the solution was discovered and the threat of polio abates, the MOD didn't declare victory and disband, it chose a new threat to campaign against being careful to choose one that could be solved by something as simple as developing a vaccine, birth defects.  Thus newly repurposed, the MOD will always be with us, as will some sort of dire environmental catastrophe.  Global Warming has already been changed to Global Climate Change and since that includes either warming or cooling, an easy solution has already been taken off the table, since nobody really knows how mankind causes or can undo it.  They're keeping it vague for a reason.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This solution would be too easy.  Like dumping iron filings in the ocean to stimulate phytoplankton blooms, it would have to be opposed by environmental groups because it would cause all their fundraising to dry up.  They thrive on fear, and have become such large businesses in their own right, that they can&#8217;t afford to solve the major problem they warn about. </p>
<p>The March of Dimes was organized to find a solution to polio.  When the solution was discovered and the threat of polio abates, the MOD didn&#8217;t declare victory and disband, it chose a new threat to campaign against being careful to choose one that could be solved by something as simple as developing a vaccine, birth defects.  Thus newly repurposed, the MOD will always be with us, as will some sort of dire environmental catastrophe.  Global Warming has already been changed to Global Climate Change and since that includes either warming or cooling, an easy solution has already been taken off the table, since nobody really knows how mankind causes or can undo it.  They&#8217;re keeping it vague for a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Boghie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boghie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John hit it on the mark...

The assumption of the article is that reflective material and technology is not currently used.  It is.  I look out of my window in SoCal and note that the roofs are light colored and likely selected with their reflective properties in mind.  Like John stated, you don't have to be a Harvard PHD to want to stay cooler in the summer.

As far as a highly reflective surface (high glare) being used, think of the problems it will cause aircraft.  Thus, even flat roofs should not use 'mirrored' surfaces.

A nice middle ground could be found - and, probably has in SoCal.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John hit it on the mark&#8230;</p>
<p>The assumption of the article is that reflective material and technology is not currently used.  It is.  I look out of my window in SoCal and note that the roofs are light colored and likely selected with their reflective properties in mind.  Like John stated, you don&#8217;t have to be a Harvard PHD to want to stay cooler in the summer.</p>
<p>As far as a highly reflective surface (high glare) being used, think of the problems it will cause aircraft.  Thus, even flat roofs should not use &#8216;mirrored&#8217; surfaces.</p>
<p>A nice middle ground could be found - and, probably has in SoCal.</p>
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		<title>By: ZEUGS: Die USA sollen weiß werden, Obamas Morde und die Stargate-Synchro &#171; USA Erklärt</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZEUGS: Die USA sollen weiß werden, Obamas Morde und die Stargate-Synchro &#171; USA Erklärt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] von Gegenständen) Entsprechend fragen jetzt einige Leute, warum der Kongress nicht etwas Geld für weiße Farbe locker macht, wenn er es schon mit vollen Händen ausgibt. Für eine Milliarde Dollar, so das [...]

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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume that these "genius scientists" did not bother to ask any roofing contractor (one of the great unwashed without a Harvard PHD) about this.  If they had, they'd have found out that aluminum roof coating, that dries bright silver, has been around since the beginning of time.

The simple fact is that sun;light is the arch enemy of most roofing materials, so coating the roof (large flat ones) wit reflective material is standard procedure to lengthen the life of the roof.  Torch down rubberoid is now the most common flat roof material.  Its fact sheet tells you clearly to coat it with aluminum roof coating on 5 year, or less, cycles.  The hotter the clime the more often you coat.

Before rubberoid, the most common flat roof surface was built up roll roofing (essentially heavy tar paper).  After that was applied, using tar, a thin layer of fine, bright, gravel would be applied, to a light tar surface for bonding, to reflect the sun and protect the roof. That is not as common today, as silver roof coating is cheaper and easier.

Roll roofing also comes coated, like standard roof shingles.  The reason for that gravel like coating is to repel sun,  Coated roll is usually used of low pitch surfaced.  

As for more northern areas, the reflective coating is of little consequence for heat retention in the winter (for large flat roofs mentioned in the article).  The simple fact  is that a LARGE surface is exposed to the cold air, and buildings like big box stores, etc, don't have that much, if any insulation in the roof.  The foam that may or may not have been applied over the corrugated metal only has moderate R value.  

For homes, insulation, with a proper vapor barrier, means a heck of lot more that the color of a roof.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume that these &#8220;genius scientists&#8221; did not bother to ask any roofing contractor (one of the great unwashed without a Harvard PHD) about this.  If they had, they&#8217;d have found out that aluminum roof coating, that dries bright silver, has been around since the beginning of time.</p>
<p>The simple fact is that sun;light is the arch enemy of most roofing materials, so coating the roof (large flat ones) wit reflective material is standard procedure to lengthen the life of the roof.  Torch down rubberoid is now the most common flat roof material.  Its fact sheet tells you clearly to coat it with aluminum roof coating on 5 year, or less, cycles.  The hotter the clime the more often you coat.</p>
<p>Before rubberoid, the most common flat roof surface was built up roll roofing (essentially heavy tar paper).  After that was applied, using tar, a thin layer of fine, bright, gravel would be applied, to a light tar surface for bonding, to reflect the sun and protect the roof. That is not as common today, as silver roof coating is cheaper and easier.</p>
<p>Roll roofing also comes coated, like standard roof shingles.  The reason for that gravel like coating is to repel sun,  Coated roll is usually used of low pitch surfaced.  </p>
<p>As for more northern areas, the reflective coating is of little consequence for heat retention in the winter (for large flat roofs mentioned in the article).  The simple fact  is that a LARGE surface is exposed to the cold air, and buildings like big box stores, etc, don&#8217;t have that much, if any insulation in the roof.  The foam that may or may not have been applied over the corrugated metal only has moderate R value.  </p>
<p>For homes, insulation, with a proper vapor barrier, means a heck of lot more that the color of a roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the climate change religion, the solution is simple: outlaw the manufacture and usage of any roofing material in colors other than gray and white.
If it works with incandescent bulbs, it'll work here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the climate change religion, the solution is simple: outlaw the manufacture and usage of any roofing material in colors other than gray and white.<br />
If it works with incandescent bulbs, it&#8217;ll work here.</p>
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		<title>By: Crevek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crevek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are just trying to negate actual progress with your science of painting things! The only way for global warming to stop is for every last person to live like they're on the Serengeti!

This idea would hurt way less than strangling the few industries that know how to make money, but it wouldn't 'feel' as green; Feeling green, feeling like you're making a difference, is the whole point of all of this crap. Well that and terrorism against un-unionizable big business...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are just trying to negate actual progress with your science of painting things! The only way for global warming to stop is for every last person to live like they&#8217;re on the Serengeti!</p>
<p>This idea would hurt way less than strangling the few industries that know how to make money, but it wouldn&#8217;t &#8216;feel&#8217; as green; Feeling green, feeling like you&#8217;re making a difference, is the whole point of all of this crap. Well that and terrorism against un-unionizable big business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 15:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristo Miettinen said:

"Simple solutions aren’t good enough, because they don’t warrant sufficient interventions in each other’s affairs. It’s not the problem that matters, but the solution - only the right solution will do."

Bingo! I think Kristo has nailed it. Global warming has become such a huge (and lucrative - e.g Al Gore), politicized ideological campaign that there is no tolerance by GW priesthood for rational discussion/dissent (see Koblog comment) or micro-solutions.  

Improving rooftop reflectivity would not feed the priesthood.  Cap'N Trade, however, will suck enough money to keep the ideological parasites well-fed for a while ... until the host organism dies.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristo Miettinen said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Simple solutions aren’t good enough, because they don’t warrant sufficient interventions in each other’s affairs. It’s not the problem that matters, but the solution - only the right solution will do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo! I think Kristo has nailed it. Global warming has become such a huge (and lucrative - e.g Al Gore), politicized ideological campaign that there is no tolerance by GW priesthood for rational discussion/dissent (see Koblog comment) or micro-solutions.  </p>
<p>Improving rooftop reflectivity would not feed the priesthood.  Cap&#8217;N Trade, however, will suck enough money to keep the ideological parasites well-fed for a while &#8230; until the host organism dies.</p>
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		<title>By: Koblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. No. No. 

First, you quit drinking the Kool Aid.

Then you have to prove that a gas all living creatures breathe out and that plants require for them to live is bad.

Then you have to prove there is "Global Warming" in the first place.

Then you have to prove that such warming is bad.

Then you have to prove that whatever CO2 production human activity creates is even close to what active volcanoes and other natural processes generate.

Then you have to make up your mind: is it "Global Warming" or "Climate Change?"

Then you have to prove that the Earth's climate is naturally static and any changes need to be addressed by painting things white.

This whole manufactured "crisis" is lunacy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. No. No. </p>
<p>First, you quit drinking the Kool Aid.</p>
<p>Then you have to prove that a gas all living creatures breathe out and that plants require for them to live is bad.</p>
<p>Then you have to prove there is &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; in the first place.</p>
<p>Then you have to prove that such warming is bad.</p>
<p>Then you have to prove that whatever CO2 production human activity creates is even close to what active volcanoes and other natural processes generate.</p>
<p>Then you have to make up your mind: is it &#8220;Global Warming&#8221; or &#8220;Climate Change?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you have to prove that the Earth&#8217;s climate is naturally static and any changes need to be addressed by painting things white.</p>
<p>This whole manufactured &#8220;crisis&#8221; is lunacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Florida limestone is used as the stone aggregate in asphalt, only because it's cheaper than trucking in something like bluestone; it takes a couple of years, but when the asphalt binder erodes what's left is a road surface lightly colored enough that we have to add black lines to the white ones to provde enough contrast between the two.  I have no idea what the albedo of several-year-old Florida asphalt is, but I'm sure it's a lot higher than either new asphalt or asphalt elsewhere in the country. 

I noticed when I replaced my roof after the hurricanes a few years back, using very light gray, almost white, shingles, my AC bill dropped about 20% (the shingles which were replaced were medium gray, and had darkened with age). A friend in the roofing biz says he sees similar results from very light colored standing seam metal roofs, and my father never tired of recounting how much difference it made in the summer in our old Virginia farmhouse by painting the metal roof with highly reflective aluminum paint. It would seem that the greatest benefit from painting roofs white would come in a warmer climate - Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Arizona, southern California, etc. so why not start there?

And, if my experience is typical (I don't know that it is), and there is a 15% - 20% savings possible from changing the roof color from gray to white, why haven't business owners in the warm, sunny states already done it? Why do we need the brain dead idiots in government to facilitate such savings?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Florida limestone is used as the stone aggregate in asphalt, only because it&#8217;s cheaper than trucking in something like bluestone; it takes a couple of years, but when the asphalt binder erodes what&#8217;s left is a road surface lightly colored enough that we have to add black lines to the white ones to provde enough contrast between the two.  I have no idea what the albedo of several-year-old Florida asphalt is, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a lot higher than either new asphalt or asphalt elsewhere in the country. </p>
<p>I noticed when I replaced my roof after the hurricanes a few years back, using very light gray, almost white, shingles, my AC bill dropped about 20% (the shingles which were replaced were medium gray, and had darkened with age). A friend in the roofing biz says he sees similar results from very light colored standing seam metal roofs, and my father never tired of recounting how much difference it made in the summer in our old Virginia farmhouse by painting the metal roof with highly reflective aluminum paint. It would seem that the greatest benefit from painting roofs white would come in a warmer climate - Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Arizona, southern California, etc. so why not start there?</p>
<p>And, if my experience is typical (I don&#8217;t know that it is), and there is a 15% - 20% savings possible from changing the roof color from gray to white, why haven&#8217;t business owners in the warm, sunny states already done it? Why do we need the brain dead idiots in government to facilitate such savings?</p>
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		<title>By: SamIam</title>
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		<dc:creator>SamIam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doing this is a non-starter because the human-caused climate change hoax is about politics (power) and wealth transference, and this "solution" doesn't meet the criteria.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing this is a non-starter because the human-caused climate change hoax is about politics (power) and wealth transference, and this &#8220;solution&#8221; doesn&#8217;t meet the criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: rasqual</title>
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		<dc:creator>rasqual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh.

This actually represents a good market for offsets. Plant a forest? Why? Just go paint a parking lot!

In fact, if the stimulus or Obama's civil corps went a-paintin' without offering credits for sale, it'd be like burning an asset with no return. 

;-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh.</p>
<p>This actually represents a good market for offsets. Plant a forest? Why? Just go paint a parking lot!</p>
<p>In fact, if the stimulus or Obama&#8217;s civil corps went a-paintin&#8217; without offering credits for sale, it&#8217;d be like burning an asset with no return. </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.infrastructurist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JorgXMcKie</title>
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		<dc:creator>JorgXMcKie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G Harry Stine, back in the 70s or 80s pointed out the amount of excess heat generated by living in a mechanized world.  I.e. the friction in the machinery that is used by humans was/is generating quite a lot of heat.  His solution back then, which would seem to fit for Global Warming today, was to cover Texas with aluminum paint.  (He didn't care for Texas much, I guess.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G Harry Stine, back in the 70s or 80s pointed out the amount of excess heat generated by living in a mechanized world.  I.e. the friction in the machinery that is used by humans was/is generating quite a lot of heat.  His solution back then, which would seem to fit for Global Warming today, was to cover Texas with aluminum paint.  (He didn&#8217;t care for Texas much, I guess.)</p>
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		<title>By: ajm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a good application for "self-cleaning materials": 
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=self-cleaning-materials

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good application for &#8220;self-cleaning materials&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=self-cleaning-materials" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=self-cleaning-materials</a></p>
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