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	<title>Comments on: Why American Traffic Jams Are Like Soviet Bread Lines</title>
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	<description>America Under Construction</description>
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		<title>By: Portland Considers Buying A McMansion-style Highway Bridge &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/03/05/why-american-traffic-jams-are-like-soviet-bread-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-7030</link>
		<dc:creator>Portland Considers Buying A McMansion-style Highway Bridge &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than in the past &#8212; as now seems certain to be the case, thanks to higher gas prices &#8212; we simply don&#8217;t need 12 lanes of capacity, plus light [...]

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		<title>By: BPIII</title>
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		<dc:creator>BPIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Traffic congestion could be reduced if drivers would just  move to the right to allow faster moving vehicles to pass in the left lane (as multi-lane highways were intentionally designed) and move on past the congested areas. 

Another issue that contributes to congestion in metropolitan areas is left-side entrance/exit ramps. This creates confusion, and forces traffic to slow in all lanes, especially when highways are set up so that drivers entering a highway have to quickly cross mulitple lanes of traffic to get to a left-side exit with a relatively short distance to travel.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traffic congestion could be reduced if drivers would just  move to the right to allow faster moving vehicles to pass in the left lane (as multi-lane highways were intentionally designed) and move on past the congested areas. </p>
<p>Another issue that contributes to congestion in metropolitan areas is left-side entrance/exit ramps. This creates confusion, and forces traffic to slow in all lanes, especially when highways are set up so that drivers entering a highway have to quickly cross mulitple lanes of traffic to get to a left-side exit with a relatively short distance to travel.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir Dyuzhev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vladimir Dyuzhev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Food was rationed because the country was destroyed by a long WWI and the following civil war. It took time to restore the capacity. Thus, the analogy is wrong -- the roads should have been bombed and demolished to make it comparable. 

In a few years, Russia not only fed the population, but it started to export a lot of grain (and does so till now). May be, author should have better mentioned soup kitchens from Great Depression time, shouldn't he? May he would exercise more knowledge then, and wouldn't looked like an ignoramus.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food was rationed because the country was destroyed by a long WWI and the following civil war. It took time to restore the capacity. Thus, the analogy is wrong &#8212; the roads should have been bombed and demolished to make it comparable. </p>
<p>In a few years, Russia not only fed the population, but it started to export a lot of grain (and does so till now). May be, author should have better mentioned soup kitchens from Great Depression time, shouldn&#8217;t he? May he would exercise more knowledge then, and wouldn&#8217;t looked like an ignoramus.</p>
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		<title>By: Stev379</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Comparison!
Here's a spot-on video I found about how traffic jams work:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/17/fastdraw/entry5093379.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Comparison!<br />
Here&#8217;s a spot-on video I found about how traffic jams work:<br />
<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/17/fastdraw/entry5093379.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/17/fastdraw/entry5093379.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody</a></p>
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		<title>By: Highway Deaths Fall To Lowest Level Since JFK Administration &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highway Deaths Fall To Lowest Level Since JFK Administration &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we learned (and kept learning), that Americans are driving less. Then we found out that traffic congestion is down a whopping 30 percent in our cities. Then today, the government announces that there were fewer traffic fatalities in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MattLisle.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fresh From delicious: Why American Traffic &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>MattLisle.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fresh From delicious: Why American Traffic &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RiverScot:

The Russians rationed the bread instead of making more bread.  More bread would have fed more Russians.

The author's thesis, as I understand it, is that rationing (variable time of day pricing) the road use would increase the resources available by making the road capacity more efficient.  

Unfortunately, bread production does not have a similar latent capacity/efficiency which can spring back when it stops being overtaxed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RiverScot:</p>
<p>The Russians rationed the bread instead of making more bread.  More bread would have fed more Russians.</p>
<p>The author&#8217;s thesis, as I understand it, is that rationing (variable time of day pricing) the road use would increase the resources available by making the road capacity more efficient.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, bread production does not have a similar latent capacity/efficiency which can spring back when it stops being overtaxed.</p>
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		<title>By: For 14th Month In A Row, Americans Drive Less &#8212; But Will It Last? &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
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		<dc:creator>For 14th Month In A Row, Americans Drive Less &#8212; But Will It Last? &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;ve learned recently, even very small reductions in miles driven can have outsized effects in reducing traffic congestion, which is a good thing for everyone. But the big question remains [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RiverScot</title>
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		<dc:creator>RiverScot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would pricing have fed more Russians?</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xavier,

Yes, that's true. We're just going to roll with it, I think.

-Jebediah</description>
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<p>Yes, that&#8217;s true. We&#8217;re just going to roll with it, I think.</p>
<p>-Jebediah</p>
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		<title>By: XavierL</title>
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		<dc:creator>XavierL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The image of a line of people in front of a bakery is flipped, so the cyrillic Я's look like normal R's.</description>
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		<title>By: America&#8217;s Traffic = USSR&#8217;s Bread Lines &#171; The Public Choice Capitalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>America&#8217;s Traffic = USSR&#8217;s Bread Lines &#171; The Public Choice Capitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The rest is here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brion Emde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brion Emde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another situation like this is broadband internet, where the telecom companies have benefited for a decade from the artificial scarcity of bandwidth.

Bandwidth is not limited in the same way that roadways are (space constraints, linear costs, etc.), and the scarcity we have in this country is artificial. I worked in the telecom industry when the government was giving companies huge subsidies to convert to fiber optic.

Incredible amounts of fiber were laid, and then, nothing. The telecom bust somehow allowed the companies to get off without providing the promised abundant broadband that fiber would have allowed.

The answer is not, though, as it is with highways, to ration the existing infrastructure with higher prices for peak services. The answer is to hold the telecoms accountable for the money that has already been invested in information infrastructure and bring it us like a river. 

Then things will really take off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another situation like this is broadband internet, where the telecom companies have benefited for a decade from the artificial scarcity of bandwidth.</p>
<p>Bandwidth is not limited in the same way that roadways are (space constraints, linear costs, etc.), and the scarcity we have in this country is artificial. I worked in the telecom industry when the government was giving companies huge subsidies to convert to fiber optic.</p>
<p>Incredible amounts of fiber were laid, and then, nothing. The telecom bust somehow allowed the companies to get off without providing the promised abundant broadband that fiber would have allowed.</p>
<p>The answer is not, though, as it is with highways, to ration the existing infrastructure with higher prices for peak services. The answer is to hold the telecoms accountable for the money that has already been invested in information infrastructure and bring it us like a river. </p>
<p>Then things will really take off.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo of the Soviet bread line has been reversed--you can tell because the lettering on the sign is mirrored.</description>
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		<title>By: The importance of mass transit &#171; Sharing the truth one thread at a time</title>
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		<dc:creator>The importance of mass transit &#171; Sharing the truth one thread at a time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    &#171; Is this a real&#160;question?    The importance of mass&#160;transit March 10, 2009    A few cars off the roads can make a world of difference: The dramatic decline in congestion — which analysts have labeled “startling” – was almost [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The FREAK-est Links - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/03/05/why-american-traffic-jams-are-like-soviet-bread-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>The FREAK-est Links - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] breadlines were depressing and long &#8212; so it&#8217;s a bad idea to use them as models for managing traffic. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The FREAK-est Links - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The FREAK-est Links - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] breadlines were depressing and long &#8212; so it&#8217;s a bad idea to use them as models for managing traffic. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Miller&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkdump for March 5th through March 8th</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Miller&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkdump for March 5th through March 8th</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Peak hour congestion on the major roads in urban America decreased nearly 30% in 2008 versus 2007 - example of non-linearity in a complex system. 3% less driving led to 30% reduction in jamstags: infrastructure traffic culture statistics       Leave a Reply [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Steely White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Steely White</dc:creator>
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		<description>Great post!  we here at T.A. made a similar analogy a few years back.



http://www.transalt.org/newsroom/media/1072

Nearly half the traffic in Park Slope is created by drivers cruising around for parking spots due to jam-packed curbs, according to a new study unveiled yesterday."What we have now is the equivalent of a Russian bread line," said Paul Steely White, executive director of Transportation Alternatives, the advocacy group that conducted the study."Except instead of bread, it's parking, and instead of peasants standing in lines, we have cars circling the block," White said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  we here at T.A. made a similar analogy a few years back.</p>
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<p>Nearly half the traffic in Park Slope is created by drivers cruising around for parking spots due to jam-packed curbs, according to a new study unveiled yesterday.&#8221;What we have now is the equivalent of a Russian bread line,&#8221; said Paul Steely White, executive director of Transportation Alternatives, the advocacy group that conducted the study.&#8221;Except instead of bread, it&#8217;s parking, and instead of peasants standing in lines, we have cars circling the block,&#8221; White said.</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog &#187; A Proposal: Stimulus for Passenger Rail in Montana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streetsblog &#187; A Proposal: Stimulus for Passenger Rail in Montana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] around the network, the Orange County Transit Blog details forthcoming service cuts, The Infrastructurist explains how American traffic jams are like Soviet bread lines, and Making Places reports on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Streetsblog &#187; A Proposal: Stimulus for Passenger Rail in Montana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Streetsblog &#187; A Proposal: Stimulus for Passenger Rail in Montana</dc:creator>
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