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	<title>Comments on: How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming</title>
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		<title>By: Samsung Unveils e-Reader, Partnering with Google &#124; AboutGadgets.info</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-12396</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsung Unveils e-Reader, Partnering with Google &#124; AboutGadgets.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole &#8230; [...]

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		<title>By: Should We Save the Suburbs? &#124; Urban Escapee</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-7779</link>
		<dc:creator>Should We Save the Suburbs? &#124; Urban Escapee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a fascinating article you should read if you are interested in the shift away from the 50+ year phenom of building [...]

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		<title>By: Ye Olde Crosscut Not Dead Yet &#124; hugeasscity</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-6968</link>
		<dc:creator>Ye Olde Crosscut Not Dead Yet &#124; hugeasscity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] costs so much more per square foot than does housing in DuPont.  As Christopher Leinberger put it: It’s not that nobody wants Tony Soprano. About 50 percent of Americans actually do want that [...]

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] costs so much more per square foot than does housing in DuPont.  As Christopher Leinberger put it: It’s not that nobody wants Tony Soprano. About 50 percent of Americans actually do want that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LA Times Columnist: America&#8217;s Trains And Transit Will Always Suck &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>LA Times Columnist: America&#8217;s Trains And Transit Will Always Suck &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] overhang (22 million units by one calculation) of large lot exurban housing. When we talked to him, Leinberger put it this way: &#8220;Gen Xers and Millennials want a lifestyle closer to Friends than to Tony [...]

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		<title>By: Saving the Suburbs — UrbanWorkbench</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-1996</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving the Suburbs — UrbanWorkbench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming » INFRASTRUCTURIST The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places&#8230;. [...]

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		<title>By: How to save the suburbs &#171; West End Neighbors: The power of &#8220;WE&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>How to save the suburbs &#171; West End Neighbors: The power of &#8220;WE&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 14, 2009 &#183; No Comments  Here is an interesting article.  The author is Christopher Leinberger.  Apparently for years this man preached that the new [...]

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		<title>By: What You Really &#60;em&#62;Should&#60;/em&#62; Be Thinking About on Earth Day: Transit and Suburban Development Patterns &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>What You Really &#60;em&#62;Should&#60;/em&#62; Be Thinking About on Earth Day: Transit and Suburban Development Patterns &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] things to do, of course. But the long term trends seem finally to be moving in the right direction. And a long term surplus of housing units in sprawling suburban communities and a long term shortage in walkable urban places might really speed the process along. Financial incentives seem to be a [...]

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		<title>By: Chris Leinberger on the transformation of our built environment &#124; EcoSilly</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Leinberger on the transformation of our built environment &#124; EcoSilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a new post of my own, I&#8217;m going to point you to one that I really like.&#160; In particular, The Infrastructurist is running a terrific interview with Chris Leinberger, a developer and market analyst who has become one of America&#8217;s best [...]

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		<title>By: Dan Ancona</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ancona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could Kotkin possibly be any more of a grump? We tried the dencentralized route: it turned into a 50-way race to the bottom. We're just getting started, but this country is going to try something else for a while. Of course the pendulum will swing back eventually, but Leinberger's analysis here makes about a thousand times more sense than Kotkin's relentless and increasingly half-hearted apologies for the 'burbs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could Kotkin possibly be any more of a grump? We tried the dencentralized route: it turned into a 50-way race to the bottom. We&#8217;re just getting started, but this country is going to try something else for a while. Of course the pendulum will swing back eventually, but Leinberger&#8217;s analysis here makes about a thousand times more sense than Kotkin&#8217;s relentless and increasingly half-hearted apologies for the &#8216;burbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Suburb Is Becoming A Slum &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>Chicago Suburb Is Becoming A Slum &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] point that Leinberger made in his Infrastructurist interview is that this dynamic amounts to a death sentence for these communities. Home values plummet and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting. Thanks for the interview!</description>
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		<title>By: Dacey</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Dacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone actually done this and can provide some input?</description>
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		<title>By: You&#8217;re Hired! The 10 Hottest Job Opportunities in Infrastructure &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>You&#8217;re Hired! The 10 Hottest Job Opportunities in Infrastructure &#187; INFRASTRUCTURIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] communities that are connected to a rail network. (Chris Leinberger of the Brookings Institute explains the principle in this interview.) The most successful model to date is the DC area, but many other US cities from Charlotte to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oversupply in the suburbs &#124; Baltimore HUD Homes Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Oversupply in the suburbs &#124; Baltimore HUD Homes Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suburban housing called &#8212; ominously &#8212; “The Next Slum?”, did a Q&amp;A with the Infrastructurist blog this week that some of you might be interested to read. Here&#8217;s a taste of what he said about [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Density Good For Beacon Hill - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Density Good For Beacon Hill - Seattle Transit Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] become more valuable. Even without the up-zone properties values will rise. Recent work done by Christopher Leinberger shows that walkable communities have a per-square-foot price premium of between 40 and 200 percent, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Beacon Hill Blog &#187; Archive &#187; Reader Opinion: North Beacon needs higher density</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Beacon Hill Blog &#187; Archive &#187; Reader Opinion: North Beacon needs higher density</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] become more valuable. Even without the up-zone properties values will rise. Recent work done by Christopher Leinberger shows that walkable communities have a per-square-foot price premium of between 40 and 200 percent, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links! &#171; Bib-Laura-graphy</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Links! &#171; Bib-Laura-graphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article on the demise of the suburbs made me think of Paper Towns.  The author&#8217;s solution to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; The Oil Report</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; The Oil Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; Bear Market Investments</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; Bear Market Investments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: marble</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>marble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy that I found your blog. Keep up the good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Sustainable Tucson &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Saving the Suburbs. Walkable Urbanism. Green Redevelopment.</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Sustainable Tucson &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Saving the Suburbs. Walkable Urbanism. Green Redevelopment.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Go here to read a recent interview with Chris Leinberger. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Commodities Broker &#124; DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; Commodities Options &#124; Commodities Futures &#124; Commodities Prices</title>
		<link>http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/02/10/how-to-save-the-suburbs-an-interview-with-christopher-leinberger/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>Commodities Broker &#124; DrumBeat: February 13, 2009 &#124; Commodities Options &#124; Commodities Futures &#124; Commodities Prices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite a few years ago I spent extended periods on special assignments in Washington, D.C..  I usually stayed in a rented condo in Arlington and traveled either by Metro or bicycle into the heart of D.C. for work.  I concur with the author in re: to the positive aspects of Arlington and other walkable satellite communities.  These communities have a human scale quality that makes them attractive and functional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a few years ago I spent extended periods on special assignments in Washington, D.C..  I usually stayed in a rented condo in Arlington and traveled either by Metro or bicycle into the heart of D.C. for work.  I concur with the author in re: to the positive aspects of Arlington and other walkable satellite communities.  These communities have a human scale quality that makes them attractive and functional.</p>
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		<title>By: Jebediah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jebediah</dc:creator>
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		<description>Rachel - 

Kotkin is spot on with much of that. You can feel it very acutely in NYC already.

Jebediah</description>
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<p>Kotkin is spot on with much of that. You can feel it very acutely in NYC already.</p>
<p>Jebediah</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford J. Wirth, Ph.D</title>
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		<description>Surviving Peak Oil: Obstacles to Relocation
Oil and natural gas depletion will soon begin to undermine the capacity of urban and metropolitan areas to sustain human life. Modern urban and metropolitan life depends on oil and natural gas for food production and distribution, residential heating, water purification and distribution, sanitation, and the power grid that delivers electricity for the pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, elevators, home heating controls, and automated building systems. As international food transport collapses, most oil rich nations face starvation too, regardless of how much oil they possess. Oil depletion means population decline for all urban areas.

The notion that urban and suburban dwellers will relocate to small villages in agricultural regions is unrealistic. In the ensuing Peak Oil generated global economic depression, the value of urban residential properties will plummet. Increasing unemployment will slow new house sales and accelerate mortgage and property tax foreclosures. With more and more urban homes up for sale, their prices will decline sharply.

And, as the price of urban property declines in value, rural property will increase in comparative value. Indeed, in the last few years, the prices of agricultural land have increased. Soon, to move to a rural area most urban home owners will have to sell at a low price and buy a rural property for a higher price. The financial loss in selling and buying property will stifle the relocation to rural regions for most people.

At the same time, the cost of building new homes in rural areas will increase with the increasing cost of oil and natural gas. Building materials (asphalt and fiberglass shingles, cement, plastic and aluminum siding, fiberglass insulation, glass, lumber, and bricks) are either made from oil or they are manufactured with the energy of oil, natural gas, and coal. All building materials and construction workers are transported using oil (diesel and gasoline).

Electricity that is used in the manufacture and construction of houses will also become more expensive. Coal (which is transported with diesel) and natural gas (which uses oil in exploration, drilling operations, and transport of workers) provide the energy for electric power generation. Thus coal and natural gas costs, as well as the cost of electricity, will increase with the increasing price of oil.

Similarly, the construction of residential water (wells and pumps) and sanitation systems (septic systems or outhouses in rural areas) will cost more and more as the price of oil increases.

Local governments would have to construct schools and some roads in rural areas with expanding populations in an era of declining local government revenues (due to declining property values and property taxes). Local governments would have to raise taxes for new infrastructure at a time when citizens will vociferously oppose tax increases.

In colder regions of the world, including most of Europe and the U.S., urban to rural relocation means people moving close to wood supplies for home heating, but many agricultural areas lack significant forest land.

Inertia and procrastination are powerful forces in determining human behavior. It is basic human nature to deal with non-routine problems when they become obvious, not before. Very few people will study the Peak Oil future carefully to determine how it will impact them. Denial is encouraged by pervasive public, media, government, and business ignorance of Peak Oil impacts. Indeed, those who become vocal about Peak Oil face ridicule by the vast majority of the ignorant.

The combination of these obstacles means that only those who have ample resources and knowledge of Peak Oil impacts will be able to relocate, if they act sooner rather than later. Relocation will thus resemble a trickle of the affluent, rather than a mass movement.

As the Peak Oil economic depression undermines the value of investments and urban property, most people will be stuck where they are. When the highways fail, the movement of people from urban to rural areas will cease. That time is years away, not decades.

Studies by scientific organizations and independent analysts indicate that global crude oil production will now begin to decline, from 74 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. During the same time demand will increase 14%. This is equivalent to a 33% drop in 7 years. The price of oil will skyrocket like never before.

No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe. Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always exceed the level of production; thus oil depletion will proceed at the same rate until all recoverable oil is extracted.

Alternatives energies will not fill the gap. And most alternatives yield electric power, but we need liquid fuels for tractors/combines, 18 wheel trucks, trains, ships, and mining equipment. The proponents of the electric economy, the hydrogen economy, or an algal biodiesel economy ignore the obvious. There is little capital, time, energy, or public will for such trillion dollar infrastructure makeovers. The belief in alternative energies is so strong that most scientists avoid examining obvious questions – does the development of alternative energies consume more energy than they provide, and do alternative energies consume liquid fuels and give us electric power, which is not what we need?

The U.S. government provides no studies to advise the Congress and president on what to do with this catastrophe. Congress and the president are so inept they don’t even know that they should commission the National Academy of Sciences to study the energy crisis and the advise the nation on how to plan for Peak Oil impacts. The NAS is the only objective body that can develop policy with the best scientists from many fields to work together cooperatively to develop sound policy recommendations. And the NAS is the only authoritative source for making such policy recommendations to the nation. Thus Congress and the president grope around in the dark, relying on energy company lobbyists and well meaning “sages” who offer some plan to save the nation, but who know little about energy policy and Peak Oil impacts. FEMA has no Peak Oil risk management plans. Contingency planning for Peak Oil is an oxymoron.

We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from "outside," and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.

After the last power black out, the people living in rural areas will find that surviving will become increasing difficult without all of the goods from the “outside” (food, canning jars, fencing, roofing, hay, straw, seed, animal feed, plastic tarps, fertilizer, clothes, fabric, medicine, hardware, saws, wood stoves, etc.). The survivors will be the very few who live in areas with good rain and soil and who prepared intelligently for a life without oil. 

References and links here: http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/09/surviving-peak-oil-obstacles-to.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surviving Peak Oil: Obstacles to Relocation<br />
Oil and natural gas depletion will soon begin to undermine the capacity of urban and metropolitan areas to sustain human life. Modern urban and metropolitan life depends on oil and natural gas for food production and distribution, residential heating, water purification and distribution, sanitation, and the power grid that delivers electricity for the pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, elevators, home heating controls, and automated building systems. As international food transport collapses, most oil rich nations face starvation too, regardless of how much oil they possess. Oil depletion means population decline for all urban areas.</p>
<p>The notion that urban and suburban dwellers will relocate to small villages in agricultural regions is unrealistic. In the ensuing Peak Oil generated global economic depression, the value of urban residential properties will plummet. Increasing unemployment will slow new house sales and accelerate mortgage and property tax foreclosures. With more and more urban homes up for sale, their prices will decline sharply.</p>
<p>And, as the price of urban property declines in value, rural property will increase in comparative value. Indeed, in the last few years, the prices of agricultural land have increased. Soon, to move to a rural area most urban home owners will have to sell at a low price and buy a rural property for a higher price. The financial loss in selling and buying property will stifle the relocation to rural regions for most people.</p>
<p>At the same time, the cost of building new homes in rural areas will increase with the increasing cost of oil and natural gas. Building materials (asphalt and fiberglass shingles, cement, plastic and aluminum siding, fiberglass insulation, glass, lumber, and bricks) are either made from oil or they are manufactured with the energy of oil, natural gas, and coal. All building materials and construction workers are transported using oil (diesel and gasoline).</p>
<p>Electricity that is used in the manufacture and construction of houses will also become more expensive. Coal (which is transported with diesel) and natural gas (which uses oil in exploration, drilling operations, and transport of workers) provide the energy for electric power generation. Thus coal and natural gas costs, as well as the cost of electricity, will increase with the increasing price of oil.</p>
<p>Similarly, the construction of residential water (wells and pumps) and sanitation systems (septic systems or outhouses in rural areas) will cost more and more as the price of oil increases.</p>
<p>Local governments would have to construct schools and some roads in rural areas with expanding populations in an era of declining local government revenues (due to declining property values and property taxes). Local governments would have to raise taxes for new infrastructure at a time when citizens will vociferously oppose tax increases.</p>
<p>In colder regions of the world, including most of Europe and the U.S., urban to rural relocation means people moving close to wood supplies for home heating, but many agricultural areas lack significant forest land.</p>
<p>Inertia and procrastination are powerful forces in determining human behavior. It is basic human nature to deal with non-routine problems when they become obvious, not before. Very few people will study the Peak Oil future carefully to determine how it will impact them. Denial is encouraged by pervasive public, media, government, and business ignorance of Peak Oil impacts. Indeed, those who become vocal about Peak Oil face ridicule by the vast majority of the ignorant.</p>
<p>The combination of these obstacles means that only those who have ample resources and knowledge of Peak Oil impacts will be able to relocate, if they act sooner rather than later. Relocation will thus resemble a trickle of the affluent, rather than a mass movement.</p>
<p>As the Peak Oil economic depression undermines the value of investments and urban property, most people will be stuck where they are. When the highways fail, the movement of people from urban to rural areas will cease. That time is years away, not decades.</p>
<p>Studies by scientific organizations and independent analysts indicate that global crude oil production will now begin to decline, from 74 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. During the same time demand will increase 14%. This is equivalent to a 33% drop in 7 years. The price of oil will skyrocket like never before.</p>
<p>No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe. Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always exceed the level of production; thus oil depletion will proceed at the same rate until all recoverable oil is extracted.</p>
<p>Alternatives energies will not fill the gap. And most alternatives yield electric power, but we need liquid fuels for tractors/combines, 18 wheel trucks, trains, ships, and mining equipment. The proponents of the electric economy, the hydrogen economy, or an algal biodiesel economy ignore the obvious. There is little capital, time, energy, or public will for such trillion dollar infrastructure makeovers. The belief in alternative energies is so strong that most scientists avoid examining obvious questions – does the development of alternative energies consume more energy than they provide, and do alternative energies consume liquid fuels and give us electric power, which is not what we need?</p>
<p>The U.S. government provides no studies to advise the Congress and president on what to do with this catastrophe. Congress and the president are so inept they don’t even know that they should commission the National Academy of Sciences to study the energy crisis and the advise the nation on how to plan for Peak Oil impacts. The NAS is the only objective body that can develop policy with the best scientists from many fields to work together cooperatively to develop sound policy recommendations. And the NAS is the only authoritative source for making such policy recommendations to the nation. Thus Congress and the president grope around in the dark, relying on energy company lobbyists and well meaning “sages” who offer some plan to save the nation, but who know little about energy policy and Peak Oil impacts. FEMA has no Peak Oil risk management plans. Contingency planning for Peak Oil is an oxymoron.</p>
<p>We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from &#8220;outside,&#8221; and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.</p>
<p>After the last power black out, the people living in rural areas will find that surviving will become increasing difficult without all of the goods from the “outside” (food, canning jars, fencing, roofing, hay, straw, seed, animal feed, plastic tarps, fertilizer, clothes, fabric, medicine, hardware, saws, wood stoves, etc.). The survivors will be the very few who live in areas with good rain and soil and who prepared intelligently for a life without oil. </p>
<p>References and links here: <a href="http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/09/surviving-peak-oil-obstacles-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://survivingpeakoil.blogspot.com/2008/09/surviving-peak-oil-obstacles-to.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Business &#38; Finance Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; DrumBeat: February 13, 2009</title>
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		<description>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How to Save the Suburbs: Solutions from the Man Who Saw the Whole Thing Coming The suburbs are really suffering. What’s the short-form diagnosis? Americans are undergoing a fundamental shift in where they want live, work, and play. So this is not just a normal cyclical downturn. We’ve structurally overbuilt retail, office, and housing, and we’ve done so in the wrong places.  So where’s the bottom? Or, rather: Is there a bottom? It’s not a matter of waiting for two or three years to absorb the overproduction. It’s a matter of drastically reducing real estate prices to well below replacement cost. And when you sell something for below replacement cost – that might sound like, well, “Somebody takes a hit but life goes on as usual.” No, life doesn’t go on. For the owners of that retail or housing space, every dollar that they invest will be money they don’t get back. That is another definition of a slum. There’s no incentive to invest in a slum. So here you are. You buy a 4,000 square foot house 40 miles outside town. You think, wow, I got great value. But when the roof begins to go, you just patch it, because if you put a new one on it’ll cost $20,000, you’ll still be at the same selling price. So, why do it? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Florida real estate &#124; Beachfront Houses</title>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<description>Washington DC will be the new Rome - an opulent capitol of an overstretched empire in decline.</description>
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		<title>By: What will happen to suburbs? - Seattle Transit Blog</title>
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		<description>[...] when it involves suburbs turning into medium or high-density urban environments. This interview with Christopher Leinberger brings up two of my three favorite talking points on the subject: how suburbs can transform [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anne Cognito</title>
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		<description>I just moved out of Reston, VA after getting laid off from my job. It's a very interesting model of living - I was within a mile of my job, the credit union, the grocery store, the bike store, the doctor's office, the public library, the pool, the running/biking trail, my voting place... it was paradise. The biggest drawback was being 90 minutes - two hours from my social circle, which is up here in MD suburban hell. Still, I miss not having to get behind the wheel and drive for a minimum of 15 minutes just to reach basic necessities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just moved out of Reston, VA after getting laid off from my job. It&#8217;s a very interesting model of living - I was within a mile of my job, the credit union, the grocery store, the bike store, the doctor&#8217;s office, the public library, the pool, the running/biking trail, my voting place&#8230; it was paradise. The biggest drawback was being 90 minutes - two hours from my social circle, which is up here in MD suburban hell. Still, I miss not having to get behind the wheel and drive for a minimum of 15 minutes just to reach basic necessities.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<description>Rachel wrote:
&gt; DC, the capital of the US will probably have the biggest growth, esp with the Obama Admnistration.

There is actually a bit of a precedent for this: FDR's New Deal caused a boom in Washington because of all of the new workers of the federal government. At the same time, a lot of the rest of the country was at the low point of the depression. Of course, the previous administration has also created a boom of its own in Washington by outsourcing a huge part of the government to private companies, who do the same work as the earlier public servants, but for several times the cost.</description>
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&gt; DC, the capital of the US will probably have the biggest growth, esp with the Obama Admnistration.</p>
<p>There is actually a bit of a precedent for this: FDR&#8217;s New Deal caused a boom in Washington because of all of the new workers of the federal government. At the same time, a lot of the rest of the country was at the low point of the depression. Of course, the previous administration has also created a boom of its own in Washington by outsourcing a huge part of the government to private companies, who do the same work as the earlier public servants, but for several times the cost.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<description>John, 
Yes - parts of eastern PA fall within metro NYC. Great article in the New Yorker a couple of years ago by Nick Paumgarten about people commuting to Manhattan from Bucks County.

Jebediah</description>
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Yes - parts of eastern PA fall within metro NYC. Great article in the New Yorker a couple of years ago by Nick Paumgarten about people commuting to Manhattan from Bucks County.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<description>NYC is spread over FOUR states?  Okay, I understand NY, NJ, and CT.  What's the fourth?  PA?  RI?</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Fischer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc P: the Los Angeles vs. New York figure is from the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area (17,776,000 people, 4850 square miles: 3665 people per square mile) vs the New York Metropolitan Area (18,815,988 people, 6720 square miles: 2800 people per square mile).  The question is whether the census defines metropolitan areas in a truly meaningful way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc P: the Los Angeles vs. New York figure is from the Los Angeles Metropolitan Area (17,776,000 people, 4850 square miles: 3665 people per square mile) vs the New York Metropolitan Area (18,815,988 people, 6720 square miles: 2800 people per square mile).  The question is whether the census defines metropolitan areas in a truly meaningful way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This disparity will grow in the coming years, as rival regions reel from the recession. Many once-powerful places are already losing their independence and allure. Wall Street, formerly the seat of privatized power, has been reduced to supplicant status. The fate of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's "luxury city" will be determined not in deals with London, Dubai or Shanghai but by the U.S. Treasury. Similarly, the vast auto economy of the upper Midwest will take direction from congressional appropriations and whoever is named the new "car czar."

All this is bad news for much of America, but it should mean great business for many residents of greater Washington. Sudden interest in District pied-a-terres among investment bankers, venture capitalists, energy potentates and their hired help could do a lot to restore the battered condominium market. Office buildings in the District and surrounding environs can now expect a new rush of tenants, both from the private sector and the soon-to-be expanding federal bureaucracies.

The transfer of cultural power to Washington will also accelerate. After all, Washington is more than ever where the action is. Media outlets have already been shifting out of New York and other cities – the Atlantic Monthly moved from Boston to Washington in recent years, and USA Today, National Public Radio and XM Radio are headquartered in or near the capital. A city that, according to one 19th-century account, had a cuisine consisting largely of "hog and hominy grits" now boasts world-class restaurants, draws top-line chefs to its food scene and will continue to develop into a serious epicurean center. The area already ranks third in film and television production, largely because of a thriving news and documentary business, as embodied in National Geographic, the Public Broadcasting Service and the Discovery Channel.

Over time, those of us in the provinces may grow to resent all this, seeing in Washington's ascendancy something obtrusive, oppressive and contrary to the national ethos. But don't expect Washingtonians to care much. They'll be too busy running the country, when not chortling all the way to the bank. 

Joel Kotkin, newgeograpy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This disparity will grow in the coming years, as rival regions reel from the recession. Many once-powerful places are already losing their independence and allure. Wall Street, formerly the seat of privatized power, has been reduced to supplicant status. The fate of New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg&#8217;s &#8220;luxury city&#8221; will be determined not in deals with London, Dubai or Shanghai but by the U.S. Treasury. Similarly, the vast auto economy of the upper Midwest will take direction from congressional appropriations and whoever is named the new &#8220;car czar.&#8221;</p>
<p>All this is bad news for much of America, but it should mean great business for many residents of greater Washington. Sudden interest in District pied-a-terres among investment bankers, venture capitalists, energy potentates and their hired help could do a lot to restore the battered condominium market. Office buildings in the District and surrounding environs can now expect a new rush of tenants, both from the private sector and the soon-to-be expanding federal bureaucracies.</p>
<p>The transfer of cultural power to Washington will also accelerate. After all, Washington is more than ever where the action is. Media outlets have already been shifting out of New York and other cities – the Atlantic Monthly moved from Boston to Washington in recent years, and USA Today, National Public Radio and XM Radio are headquartered in or near the capital. A city that, according to one 19th-century account, had a cuisine consisting largely of &#8220;hog and hominy grits&#8221; now boasts world-class restaurants, draws top-line chefs to its food scene and will continue to develop into a serious epicurean center. The area already ranks third in film and television production, largely because of a thriving news and documentary business, as embodied in National Geographic, the Public Broadcasting Service and the Discovery Channel.</p>
<p>Over time, those of us in the provinces may grow to resent all this, seeing in Washington&#8217;s ascendancy something obtrusive, oppressive and contrary to the national ethos. But don&#8217;t expect Washingtonians to care much. They&#8217;ll be too busy running the country, when not chortling all the way to the bank. </p>
<p>Joel Kotkin, newgeograpy.com</p>
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